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Post by WyldeMan on 3/24/2016, 12:22 pm

Rooted in the classic graphic novel series, Valerian and Laureline- visionary writer/director Luc Besson advances this iconic source material into a contemporary, unique and epic science fiction saga. Valerian (Dane DeHaan) and Laureline (Cara Delevingne) are special operatives for the government of the human territories charged with maintaining order throughout the universe. Valerian has more in mind than a professional relationship with his partner- blatantly chasing after her with propositions of romance. But his extensive history with women, and her traditional values, drive Laureline to continuously rebuff him. Under directive from their Commander (Clive Owen), Valerian and Laureline embark on a mission to the breathtaking intergalactic city of Alpha, an ever-expanding metropolis comprised of thousands of different species from all four corners of the universe. Alpha’s seventeen million inhabitants have converged over time- uniting their talents, technology and resources for the betterment of all. Unfortunately, not everyone on Alpha shares in these same objectives; in fact, unseen forces are at work, placing our race in great danger.
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Post by ForeverBlu on 3/24/2016, 2:29 pm

How that hit faced chick keeps getting roles?

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Post by WyldeMan on 3/24/2016, 2:35 pm

@ForeverBlu wrote:How that hit faced chick keeps getting roles?

The Great Fappening of '14 was good for a lot of superhero careers.

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Post by Tyger on 8/1/2017, 4:51 pm

I know it's bombing but I saw it the other night and it's actually pretty dope.
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Post by UltimateMarvel on 8/1/2017, 8:21 pm

The very first trailer they released for this, I KNEW it was gonna bomb. I liked nothing about that trailer but was hoping the movie would be better than that.
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Post by WyldeMan on 8/2/2017, 6:00 am

@UltimateMarvel wrote:The very first trailer they released for this, I KNEW it was gonna bomb. I liked nothing about that trailer but was hoping the movie would be better than that.

I knew it was going to bomb because it's Luc Besson and Lucy is the most successful film he's ever made.
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Post by Rusty on 8/2/2017, 7:07 am

@WyldeMan wrote:
@UltimateMarvel wrote:The very first trailer they released for this, I KNEW it was gonna bomb. I liked nothing about that trailer but was hoping the movie would be better than that.

I knew it was going to bomb because it's Luc Besson and Lucy is the most successful film he's ever made.

You can't hate on Luc Besson.

Leon: The Professional, is better than the vast majority of the 176,987,342 movies that have been made since.

He gets a box office pass.
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Post by WyldeMan on 8/2/2017, 8:49 am

@Rusty wrote:You can't hate on Luc Besson.

Leon: The Professional, is better than the vast majority of the 176,987,342 movies that have been made since.

He gets a box office pass.

One great movie 20 years ago doesn't give you a lifetime pass to make utter bullshit. I love Leon, it still holds up, Natalie Portman was the child actor of her generation in that film but I still don't know how that was a Luc Besson film because it doesn't feel like anything else in his catalog as it was good and watchable and nothing else he's ever made has been.

It's like Bryan Singer and The Usual Suspects. One amazing film in the mid 90s and nothing but dog shit after it.
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Post by kernel_thai on 8/5/2017, 11:51 am

For me it's Le Femme Nikita, Leon the Professional & The Fifth Element giving him a pass. Three movies I really enjoyed which is more than most directors have done for me.
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Post by WyldeMan on 8/5/2017, 11:51 am

@kernel_thai wrote:For me it's Le Femme Nikita, Leon the Professional & The Fifth Element giving him a pass.  Three movies I really enjoyed which is more than most directors have done for me.

Still only Leon for me.
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Post by kernel_thai on 8/6/2017, 6:04 pm

@WyldeMan wrote:
@kernel_thai wrote:For me it's Le Femme Nikita, Leon the Professional & The Fifth Element giving him a pass.  Three movies I really enjoyed which is more than most directors have done for me.

Still only Leon for me.

I can't believe u don't love the opening scene in LFN. It's one of my favorite openers ever.
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Post by WyldeMan on 8/6/2017, 6:56 pm

@kernel_thai wrote:
@WyldeMan wrote:
@kernel_thai wrote:For me it's Le Femme Nikita, Leon the Professional & The Fifth Element giving him a pass.  Three movies I really enjoyed which is more than most directors have done for me.

Still only Leon for me.

I can't believe u don't love the opening scene in LFN.  It's one of my favorite openers ever.

I haven't seen LFM in over ten years.
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Post by WyldeMan on 8/21/2017, 11:37 am

‘Valerian’ Looks to China After Tanking in Most Markets
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets” is shaping up to be one of the biggest flops of the year. Considered the most expensive independent film ever made, the $180 million sci-fi epic never recovered from its crash at the U.S. box office on its opening weekend and has under-performed in most overseas markets.

With China, South Korea, Spain, and Italy left to open, “Valerian,” based on a French comic book, has grossed $93.3 million overseas, including an estimated $39.2 million from the U.S. as of Monday. It has made just over $130 million globally. By contrast, EuropaCorp’s 2014 action-thriller “Lucy” — whose budget was $40 million — had passed $100 million in the U.S. at the same stage and had grossed more than $130 million worldwide, with 44 additional foreign territories still awaiting its release. In other words, it cost significantly less, had made nearly as much, and still had many more markets left to open. “Lucy” would end its run with an impressive $463.4 million in global ticket sales.

Even in France, where “Valerian” has clinched its best results so far, the film has grossed an estimated $30.5 million in a little more than three weeks — again well below “Lucy,” which earned about $37 million after its third week in France.

The release in China, set for Friday, could give “Valerian” a significant push, but even in the best-case scenario, it will be a tough for “Valerian” to reach its break-even point, which analysts believe is over $400 million globally, or even to pass the $300 million mark that EuropaCorp said would allow the company to kick off a new franchise and recruit investors for a sequel.

Even if “Valerian” proves successful in ancillary markets, executives at rival studios currently estimate that “Valerian” could lose roughly $100 million from its theatrical release, though not all that loss would be borne by EuropaCorp.

A spokesperson for EuropaCorp acknowledged on Friday that the film had failed to meet expectations in the U.S. and other English-speaking territories (Canada, Australia, U.K.) but argued that “Valerian” has performed well in France, as well as in Russia, where it opened on Aug. 10 and ranked first with $5.6 million (three times better than “Annabelle: Creation”) during its first weekend.

The stakes are particularly high for Fundamental, “Valerian’s” distributor in China and other Asian territories, which invested 60 million euros in EuropaCorp to become its second-largest shareholder a year ago, and put an additional $50 million into “Valerian.”

The hope is not only for “Valerian” to outpace the $45 million that “Lucy” grossed in China, but to rack up at least $100 million in China and South Korea, said Alexandre Koller, an analyst at Gilbert Dupont.

Fundamental is expected to roll out the movie on 5,000 to 7,000 screens in China, on a par with “Lucy.”

“We will really stay quiet until the film release and we have a clear view on where we will land. Once we have that, I’ll be happy to discuss with you and go through everything you want,” said Fundamental.

So far, “Valerian” has received mixed reviews, including a 6.7 score out of 10 for audience anticipation on Douban, the influential Chinese listings and database site. But the movie has a couple strong marketing hooks, such as director Luc Besson, who has become a brand name in China and has a solid fan base there. The movie’s casting could click with Chinese audiences. The film has pop-culture cache because its cast includes Rihanna, Cara Delevingne, and Kris Wu, a Taiwanese actor and model.

“Valerian,” however, may have to scramble for screens in China with two other anticipated Western films, “Cars 3” and “Baby Driver,” also set for a release on Aug. 25, following a six-week summer blackout without any new Hollywood titles.

While EuropaCorp took steps to mitigate its risk, bringing in nine different equity partners and selling rights to foreign distributors, one insider said that despite those moves, the studio could lose $20 million. That’s without taking into account the cost of the prints and ads (P&A) for the U.S., which is estimated at $60 million. STX, which distributed the film in the U.S., put up the P&A and will recoup it from the theatrical run before the equity investors receive their money, according to an industry source.

Because different distributors own the foreign rights to the film in different markets, some will make money. Others, who have the misfortune of handling the rollout in territories where the picture has not been embraced, will lose millions.

Then there’s a question of optics. The failure of “Valerian” is a major embarrassment for EuropaCorp. The studio has suffered a string of money losers such as “The Circle,” “Miss Sloane,” and “The Disappointments Room,” and recently shuttered its stateside marketing and distribution operations.

Koller predicts that if the movie ends up making less than $300 million globally, EuropaCorp will need to raise more capital. He said that the company would also be forced to concentrate their activity on TV series such as “Taken,” while producing fewer films with more modest budgets.

Besson, whose credits include “The Fifth Element” and “The Professional,” has some experience with rejection. At the premiere of “Valerian” in Paris last month, he noted that, apart from “Lucy,” none of his films was successful in the U.S. They only became cult hits later on home entertainment platforms.
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