Re: The Suicide Squad ($724,133,343)

by **WyldeMan** 5/31/2015, 1:13 am

Rusty Cunt wrote:It won't pass $300m world-wide.

I'd say $200m, but I'll give it that + change.

This thing looks ludicrous beyond belief.

I know based on the BTS shots a lot of folks have been getting a Batman & Robin type of vibe but I think this film is way too important to the studio to let it go down in flames. And let's get real here, David Ayer is not Joel Schumacher, who had a hell of a lot more misses than hits and I think it'll play a hell of a lot better than it looks based on paparazzi shots from down the street. This is going to surprise a lot of the haters and it's coming out five months after BvS explodes at the box office and Squad will feature Batman back in action without waiting years like we've had to do betwen MoS and BvS. I believe this is going to be a huge selling point to audiences.

by **WyldeMan** 5/31/2015, 6:07 pm

by UltimateMarvel 6/1/2015, 10:32 am

I like the sound of that. Yeah, I really don't like looking at the making of a movie or behind the scenes shoots, kind of ruins the scene when you watch it. I've seen the pics but I haven't watched the videos at all.

by **WyldeMan** 6/1/2015, 9:55 pm

New Details Revealed About 'Batman''s Role In SUICIDE SQUAD

If you need further proof that we're finally getting a shared DC Cinematic Universe, look no further than the fact that Ben Affleck's Batman is set to make an appearance in Suicide Squad after starring in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice next year. Heroic Hollywood claims to have some more details on the Dark Knight's role in the movie, and it definitely sounds like we'll be getting classic Batman based on this scene description:

In short, he goes and pays Amanda Waller a visit. Batman BREAKS into her massive security prison. In fact...he's already inside Amanda Waller's office waiting for her in the shadows when she appears. The guards are clueless. Batman has a bone to pick with Waller. You see Batman is totally against the concept behind the Suicide Squad, in fact he warns Waller that he will hold her personally responsible for any innocents The Joker & the rest of the Suicide Squad kill. A warning so stern that he has to visit Waller personally to deliver the message.

by Rusty 6/2/2015, 3:30 am

WyldeMan wrote:
New Details Revealed About 'Batman''s Role In SUICIDE SQUAD
If you need further proof that we're finally getting a shared DC Cinematic Universe, look no further than the fact that Ben Affleck's Batman is set to make an appearance in Suicide Squad after starring in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice next year. Heroic Hollywood claims to have some more details on the Dark Knight's role in the movie, and it definitely sounds like we'll be getting classic Batman based on this scene description:

In short, he goes and pays Amanda Waller a visit. Batman BREAKS into her massive security prison. In fact...he's already inside Amanda Waller's office waiting for her in the shadows when she appears. The guards are clueless. Batman has a bone to pick with Waller. You see Batman is totally against the concept behind the Suicide Squad, in fact he warns Waller that he will hold her personally responsible for any innocents The Joker & the rest of the Suicide Squad kill. A warning so stern that he has to visit Waller personally to deliver the message.

Fuck yeah! Batman's going to stand in a dark corner and tell someone he's unhappy with what they're doing. Then after they do the thing Batman is unhappy with, he's going to not kill them (despite what they deserve), but punch them whilst they laugh and make jokes, then put them in gaol. That way, he can brood and not sleep easy at night, and they can escape later.

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The Suicide Squad ($724,133,343) - Page 5 Fk-yeah

This is why this movie should never have been made. I know DC heard of then saw Guardians of the Galaxy, and thought "we have a team like that!" ... but they don't. The Suicide Squad outside of a comic book is fucking retarded. It can not be taken seriously. DC fail. This shit will tank.

by Tyger 6/2/2015, 6:17 pm

Suicide Squad isn't like Guardians at all and they'be been building the public awareness of the Suicide Squad for awhile with the Arkham Origins teases and Arrow.

I don't think a Suicide Squad movie is a bad idea at all, they're just going about it as poorly as possible it seems.

by **WyldeMan** 6/2/2015, 6:32 pm

I think this is one of those movies that can't really be experienced this BTS screen grabs from a shitty camera a few hundred yards away. The only specific issues I've had are with Joker but that is because it's a character that you need to see in motion to get a real gauge on. I love Harley and I think the cast for the most part looks solid. The only one I don't like is Will Smith but that's just because I despise the guy and everything he makes.

by UltimateMarvel 6/3/2015, 10:13 am

I like it, that's straight out of Assault on Arkham:

by **WyldeMan** 6/12/2015, 7:44 pm

Common was photographed on set and clearly he's not John Stewart. There is no news of his casting anywhere in connection to this film. But they brought him back and he's not GL?!?! I couldn't get the pictures to post so here's the link.

by **WyldeMan** 6/19/2015, 9:18 pm

There is a crazy rumor that Eastwood's character is actually Slade Wilson, according to reports it's the name on his miltary uniform. I'm very confused by this as I thought Jim Parrick had been cast in the role after Mangianello got passed. There seems to be a lot of false info coming out about the characters right now.

by **WyldeMan** 6/29/2015, 6:47 pm

When Suicide Squad first began filming late April Jared Leto, who stars as The Joker, wasn't around set much but that didn't stop him from making a presence. At the premier of Joe Dirt 2: Beautiful Loser, Adam Beach who stars as Slipknot spoke on the fellow oscar winning co-star and his insane method acting. "He sent [Margot Robbie] a nice love letter", the actor said, "with a black box with a rat in it - a live rat". It doesn't stop there, he continues revealing ammunition was sent to Will Smith along with a letter. The rest of the cast received the carcass of a hog with a video portarying Leto in character. "Basically, what he said was, 'Guys, I can't be there but I want you to know I'm doing my work as hard as you guys," Beach said. "The video he showed is in character. It blew our minds away. Then we realized that day, this is real". What do you think? Suicide Squad also stars Viola Davis, Joel Kinnaman, Jai Courtney, Cara Delevingne, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Karen Fukuhara, Scott Eastwood, Jay Hernandez, Jim Parrack, Common, Ike Barinholtz, David Harbour and Ben Affleck as The Batman. Are you excited to see Jared Leto's Joker next year? Let us know below.

by UltimateMarvel 6/29/2015, 8:56 pm

That's creepy but very fitting.

by **WyldeMan** 7/3/2015, 5:50 pm

by **WyldeMan** 7/3/2015, 5:52 pm

Holy fantastic rich people cakes!

by UltimateMarvel 7/4/2015, 4:38 pm

Damn! I can't imagine that's easy to do. Wait, are those comics on top edible? I'm assuming it is.

by Rusty 7/4/2015, 5:06 pm

UltimateMarvel wrote:Damn! I can't imagine that's easy to do. Wait, are those comics on top edible? I'm assuming it is.

Comics look like icing to me. That's pretty cool.

by **WyldeMan** 7/4/2015, 5:06 pm

UltimateMarvel wrote:Damn! I can't imagine that's easy to do. Wait, are those comics on top edible? I'm assuming it is.

That's all frosting.

by **WyldeMan** 7/11/2015, 12:25 pm

David Ayer upon taking the Squad Con stage:

“You guys run this shit, we’re making this movie for you. it’s all about canon, it’s all about being true to the source material. You know what you want and we’re going to give it to you.”

by Tyger 7/11/2015, 2:34 pm

It's all about being true to the source material...you can't say that shit after the photos we've seen.

by UltimateMarvel 7/11/2015, 2:40 pm

He shouldn't have said that. Now you have to deliver, Ayer. Under promise and over deliver is my thing instead of the opposite.

This is a little far off than BvS, but when do you guys think we'll get a teaser for it?

by **WyldeMan** 7/11/2015, 4:19 pm

UltimateMarvel wrote:He shouldn't have said that. Now you have to deliver, Ayer. Under promise and over deliver is my thing instead of the opposite.

This is a little far off than BvS, but when do you guys think we'll get a teaser for it?

Apparently one was shown mostly of concepts but some actual footage according to reports the crowds went crazy but were not laughing at all by what they saw of Joker. Seemed to be a huge hit.

I have faith in Ayer having just seen Fury, that movie was fucking insane!

by Tyger 7/11/2015, 4:24 pm

There was a trailer shown, you can see phone recordings of the screen. Did nothing for me. Doubt seeing it for real will change that.

by **WyldeMan** 7/11/2015, 4:30 pm

Tyger wrote:There was a trailer shown, you can see phone recordings of the screen. Did nothing for me. Doubt seeing it for real will change that.

I just don't understand how you can be so pro BvS and already despise SS so much. Has Ayer disappointed you massively in the past?

by Tyger 7/11/2015, 6:14 pm

Why doesn't that make sense? Look at everything we've seen from Batman v Superman. Sure, it's not all awesome but the good far outweighs the bad. I haven't seen anything from Suicide Squad to give me any hope. They did one piece of good casting and fucked it up with the makeup/costume.

Suicide Squad should've been such a fucking easy thing to get right and they didn't. Batman v Superman is immensely hard to do right, but fuckin' A look at that trailer!

by **WyldeMan** 7/11/2015, 9:44 pm

Tyger wrote:Why doesn't that make sense? Look at everything we've seen from Batman v Superman. Sure, it's not all awesome but the good far outweighs the bad. I haven't seen anything from Suicide Squad to give me any hope. They did one piece of good casting and fucked it up with the makeup/costume.

Suicide Squad should've been such a fucking easy thing to get right and they didn't. Batman v Superman is immensely hard to do right, but fuckin' A look at that trailer!

You have already made up your mind that they completely fucked this movie up and you haven't seen an official trailer yet, only something shot from across the room on a cell phone. But you were hating this long before that.

Harley looked great in her cage and I love Ayer's style, he does grit and filth and violence so well and I am looking forward to it. You've had a problem with virtually every single comic character adaptation on tv or film going back as far as I remember posting, sometimes you come around, sometimes you don't but there's always an issue. I tend to give filmmakers who have already earned my trust, the benefit of the doubt on their next projects. I'm expecting the Squad to be a total fuckin riot and if not, Margot Robbie will forever spend the rest of eternity burned into my brain as Harley Quinn and when I'm old she will be the reason why I won't need Cialis. But you man, you already know you're going to hate this you've sold yourself on that thought so long ago that there isn't much of a chance that you will enjoy it and that's a shame. It's a comic book movie man and you need to remember what that means to the kid in you, not the 30 year old critic.

by Tyger 7/11/2015, 10:24 pm

I didn't hate on it until they gave me reasons to hate on it. I was initially really excited at the prospect of a Suicide Squad movie. I was hopeful for a long ass time until thongs kept looking worse and worse and worse.

While we are inundated with comic book adaptations these days, we still get relatively few versions of each character. I'm fine with comics and sometimes animation doing different things with characters, but for live action, I think they should use the most iconic takes on each character and do that right before anything else. You fucking know Leto looks retarded and you can say Robbie looks like Harley right out of the new 52, but is the new 52 what you think of when you think of Harley? For the debut of a fan favorite character that they actually cast very well, I think they fucked up.

I'm not trying to convert anyone, I'm just very annoyed.

by **WyldeMan** 7/11/2015, 10:28 pm

I've always thought as Harley as the only clown I'd ever let touch me. Twisted Evil

by UltimateMarvel 7/12/2015, 11:18 am

WyldeMan wrote:I have faith in Ayer having just seen Fury, that movie was fucking insane!

Great movie! I didn't know he was behind it.

by **WyldeMan** 7/12/2015, 11:40 am

UltimateMarvel wrote:
WyldeMan wrote:I have faith in Ayer having just seen Fury, that movie was fucking insane!

Great movie! I didn't know he was behind it.

Ayer has nearly full creative control because Warner loved his pitch so much.

by **WyldeMan** 7/13/2015, 5:47 pm

Warner Bros Releases ‘Suicide Squad’ Footage After Being Frustrated By Comic Con Pirates

EXCLUSIVE: Warner Bros has changed course and just released a pristine version of the sizzle reel for Suicide Squad shown during the studio’s Hall H presentation at Comic Con on Saturday. Someone in the crowd recorded footage that was meant solely for show attendees and posted a lousy-quality version online. Yesterday, Sue Kroll, the studio’s President of Worldwide Marketing and International Distribution, told Deadline that the leak was a breach of trust the studio enjoyed with the Comic-Con faithful, but because the film is still in production, the studio wouldn’t release a better version. Likely after seeing the lousy pirated version gain viral traction, Kroll has changed her mind.

Said Kroll: “Warner Bros. Pictures and our anti-piracy team have worked tirelessly over the last 48 hours to contain the Suicide Squad footage that was pirated from Hall H on Saturday. We have been unable to achieve that goal. Today we will release the same footage that has been illegally circulating on the web, in the form it was created and high quality with which it was intended to be enjoyed. We regret this decision as it was our intention to keep the footage as a unique experience for the Comic Con crowd, but we cannot continue to allow the film to be represented by the poor quality of the pirated footage stolen from our presentation.”

Deadline asked the question yesterday that studios and filmmakers will undoubtedly ponder if Comic-Con organizers don’t do a better job reining in Hall H attendees. Studios certainly will keep showing trailers they post online moments after the Hall H premiere, but why would any director cut a special reel if the reward is having a global release of rough footage? It’s not like it is going to hurt attendance or Hall H crowds. We’ll wait and see if Fox decides to go the same way with Deadpool, footage of which also was stolen from the Comic-Con screening and put online.

by **WyldeMan** 7/13/2015, 7:46 pm

I fucking love that trailer I don't care what you people say.

This screen grab excites me because we will be shown what Joker did to turn Dr Harleen Quinzel into Harley Quinn. Had not expected them to explore this aspect at all in the first film.

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And this is just hot:

by UltimateMarvel 7/13/2015, 8:20 pm

LOVED the trailer! Everything was riding on the Joker for me and as I had hoped, Leto did not disappoint. I knew Margot would knock it outta the park. Everyone else looks great as well.

I had no idea the trailer was released because of a leak, I didn't even know there was a leaked footage. I assumed it was their plan to release it. I appreciate them for releasing it in high quality but I don't like this exclusivity shit they do for Comic Con attendees. Every fan would attend Comic Con to watch these trailers if they could. I hope they learn from this and just release the trailers the same day to everyone else to enjoy it as well. Deadpool's next! I'd love a clear copy of that today or tomorrow.

by Tyger 7/13/2015, 9:56 pm

I think I like it even less now. Damn.

by **WyldeMan** 7/14/2015, 12:14 am

UltimateMarvel wrote:LOVED the trailer! Everything was riding on the Joker for me and as I had hoped, Leto did not disappoint. I knew Margot would knock it outta the park. Everyone else looks great as well.

I had no idea the trailer was released because of a leak, I didn't even know there was a leaked footage. I assumed it was their plan to release it. I appreciate them for releasing it in high quality but I don't like this exclusivity shit they do for Comic Con attendees. Every fan would attend Comic Con to watch these trailers if they could. I hope they learn from this and just release the trailers the same day to everyone else to enjoy it as well. Deadpool's next! I'd love a clear copy of that today or tomorrow.

It was pretty great and I don't even like anybody in the cast besides Margot, lol.

They claim outrage but I always assume these leaks are from the studios because its a great way to drum up a ton of publicity to then just go ahead and release the official version to mass hype. Fans eat this shit up year after year.

by Rusty 7/14/2015, 12:21 am

UltimateMarvel wrote:
I had no idea the trailer was released because of a leak, I didn't even know there was a leaked footage. I assumed it was their plan to release it. I appreciate them for releasing it in high quality but I don't like this exclusivity shit they do for Comic Con attendees. Every fan would attend Comic Con to watch these trailers if they could. I hope they learn from this and just release the trailers the same day to everyone else to enjoy it as well. Deadpool's next! I'd love a clear copy of that today or tomorrow.

It wasn't leaked as much as it was filmed on a phone by someone whilst it was being shown to the Con crowd, and uploaded - just like every trailer shown at a Con.

I agree. Fuck Con exclusive shit. Since Marvel had no presence their this year, they should have fucked with DC and uploaded a new trailer for something to YouTube during one of DC's panels.

Shit would have gotten real Very Happy

by **WyldeMan** 7/15/2015, 9:39 am

Watched the trailer again and just realized that Joker is talking to Dr Quinzel when he says "I'm not going to kill you, I'm just going to hurt you really really bad" cause him being shirtless with the purple gloves lines up with that shot of her strapped to the shock table earlier in the trailer. Man that's fucked up, we're gonna see Harley Quinn being made through horrific torture, didn't really think they'd go there for this movie but Ayer ain't pulling any punches and we're getting her actual origins. They want you to know just how fucking savage and cerebral Joker really is and it's about damned time we get this version in live action.

by UltimateMarvel 7/15/2015, 10:01 pm

Yeah, you mentioned the Joker/Dr. Harleen scene a few posts above already. Stop trippin! Razz

This Joker is different appearance wise but I'm hoping we're going to see the best version of the character so far with Leto's performance. I like what I see so far, I'll tell you that.

by **WyldeMan** 7/16/2015, 10:06 am

UltimateMarvel wrote:Yeah, you mentioned the Joker/Dr. Harleen scene a few posts above already. Stop trippin!

This Joker is different appearance wise but I'm hoping we're going to see the best version of the character so far with Leto's performance. I like what I see so far, I'll tell you that.

Yeah but I hadn't realized they were clips from the same scene, did you know he was talking to Harleen when you first watched the trailer, cause I didn't.

Well it looks like Joker is going to do more than just start off by trying to destroy Gotham so that will be a nice change of pace. They've never bothered much with his cerebral side it's always just straight crazy while making Batman pick A or B. That's all it was in TDK he kept giving him 2 choices on everything. Another boring and poorly written Joker IMO. If Leto and Ayer are going for a Killing Joke version of the character, then that is the Joker I've been waiting to see.

by UltimateMarvel 7/16/2015, 8:26 pm

WyldeMan wrote:Yeah but I hadn't realized they were clips from the same scene, did you know he was talking to Harleen when you first watched the trailer, cause I didn't.

I didn't until you grabbed that screenshot.

WyldeMan wrote:Well it looks like Joker is going to do more than just start off by trying to destroy Gotham so that will be a nice change of pace. They've never bothered much with his cerebral side it's always just straight crazy while making Batman pick A or B. That's all it was in TDK he kept giving him 2 choices on everything. Another boring and poorly written Joker IMO. If Leto and Ayer are going for a Killing Joke version of the character, then that is the Joker I've been waiting to see.

People keep bringing up the Killing Joke and I'm curious what the hype is all about. Maybe I'll just read the description on Wikipedia or something.

by Rusty 7/17/2015, 3:11 am

UltimateMarvel wrote:
People keep bringing up the Killing Joke and I'm curious what the hype is all about. Maybe I'll just read the description on Wikipedia or something.

Fuck me dead.

How the fuck have you not read The Killing Joke? I realise you're Ultimate Marvel, but for fuck's sake. There is zero excuse for any "comic" person to not own this book.

Nothing on Wikipedia will come close to what you get, not just reading, but viewing the pages. Seeing the artwork as part of the narrative is what makes The Killing Joke so important. Reading "The Joker did something fucked up" is one thing, but seeing it unfold before your eyes? There's a reason Moore's TKJ is as lauded as it is.

Buy the graphic novel. It's less than $10 on Amazon.

by **WyldeMan** 7/17/2015, 11:12 am

UltimateMarvel wrote:
WyldeMan wrote:Yeah but I hadn't realized they were clips from the same scene, did you know he was talking to Harleen when you first watched the trailer, cause I didn't.

I didn't until you grabbed that screenshot.

That whole sequence with all of the shooting in the animal costumes, looks to be Joker and his gang breaking into Arkham for the first time, ending with him making Harley. Maybe that's what kicks off the movie, Joker breaks in and makes Harley before being captured by Batman. Then it time jumps to Harley and the Squad forming and doing whatever the hell their mission is. That's my interpretation of the trailer.

Rusty Cunt wrote:Nothing on Wikipedia will come close to what you get, not just reading, but viewing the pages. Seeing the artwork as part of the narrative is what makes The Killing Joke so important. Reading "The Joker did something fucked up" is one thing, but seeing it unfold before your eyes? There's a reason Moore's TKJ is as lauded as it is.

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I agree completely with Rusty on this point, there are some story lines you can just read summaries on Wikipedia, like everything from Marvel Cool

but then there are other story lines that you need to experience to grasp the full effect. I know you probably have only seen it animation but when you watched Under the Red Hood and you saw Joker beating Robin to death with that crowbar, do you think you would have enjoyed that information nearly as much as having just read about it on wikipedia?

by UltimateMarvel 7/17/2015, 10:28 pm

Rusty Cunt wrote:Fuck me dead.

How the fuck have you not read The Killing Joke? I realise you're Ultimate Marvel, but for fuck's sake. There is zero excuse for any "comic" person to not own this book.

Nothing on Wikipedia will come close to what you get, not just reading, but viewing the pages. Seeing the artwork as part of the narrative is what makes The Killing Joke so important. Reading "The Joker did something fucked up" is one thing, but seeing it unfold before your eyes? There's a reason Moore's TKJ is as lauded as it is.

It's that good, huh? When did you read it?

And being a fan of Marvel has nothing to do with it. I don't read much comics but when I do, it's usually DC comics ironically. I think it's time I change my username to something else. lol!

WyldeMan wrote:I agree completely with Rusty on this point, there are some story lines you can just read summaries on Wikipedia, like everything from Marvel but then there are other story lines that you need to experience to grasp the full effect. I know you probably have only seen it animation but when you watched Under the Red Hood and you saw Joker beating Robin to death with that crowbar, do you think you would have enjoyed that information nearly as much as having just read about it on wikipedia?

Alright, I'll check it out.

by Rusty 7/18/2015, 2:20 am

UltimateMarvel wrote:

It's that good, huh? When did you read it?

And being a fan of Marvel has nothing to do with it. I don't read much comics but when I do, it's usually DC comics ironically. I think it's time I change my username to something else. lol!

Alright, I'll check it out.

It is. I'll read it once every couple of years. It's reasonably short. You'll be done in 30 minutes, but worth every penny.

It is the ultimate Joker story. Also a Joker origins story, which is rare.

by **WyldeMan** 7/18/2015, 1:33 pm

UltimateMarvel wrote:Alright, I'll check it out.

On that note Batman A Death in the Family is another great Joker comic which was about him killing Jason Todd, this was what you saw in Under the Red Hood.

What else would you say Rust, Morrison's Arkham Asylum?

by Tyger 7/18/2015, 8:19 pm

All great books. The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth are both stand alone stories too so you can read them without fear of addiction.

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