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Post by WyldeMan on 12/18/2014, 12:18 pm

Legendary Pictures’ Crimson Peak, a co-production with Universal Pictures, is a haunting gothic horror story directed by the master of dark fairy tales, Guillermo del Toro, written by del Toro and Matthew Robbins and starring Mia Wasikowska, Jessica Chastain, Tom Hiddleston and Charlie Hunnam. In the aftermath of a family tragedy, an aspiring author is torn between love for her childhood friend and the temptation of a mysterious outsider.  Trying to escape the ghosts of her past, she is swept away to a house that breathes, bleeds…and remembers.


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Post by detective392 on 2/14/2015, 8:52 am

Damn this looks amazing. Really liked the ghosts effects.
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Post by WyldeMan on 10/17/2015, 10:58 am

‘Crimson Peak’ Debuts Soft
Legendary’s Guillermo del Toro gothic horror romance pic Crimson Peak is coming in below expectations. Friday matinees pointed toward an $8M opening day after the film charted the highest among Thursday night previews with $855K, however, business tapered off this evening. In addition, the film’s B- CinemaScore is a factor in scaring away business. Crimson Peak’s Friday is estimated at $5.29M and the weekend is now projected at $13M, putting it in fourth place at 2,984 (including Imax and PLF) instead of third. Earlier today, the town thought an $18M-$20M opening was within Crimson Peak‘s reach (Uni saw mid-teens heading into the weekend). Few horror titles score A CinemaScores, however; if Crimson Peak earned a B or B+, it would have had a shot at a better multiple. On average, an R-rated horror film earning a B- to D CinemaScore typically legs out to a 2.1 multiple. Sources tell me that a good third of moviegoers turned out for Crimson Peak because they’re del Toro fans, while another 20% turned up for the ensemble cast. Whenever a director scores a huge percentage, it indicates that business will be front-loaded: Most of del Toro’s fans are expected to have come out on Friday, and are unlikely to attend in the second weekend. Although a Rotten Tomatoes score of 68% fresh indicates that many critics liked the film, reviews aren’t expected to drive adults to this one. There was a low percentage of under 18-year-olds on Friday night with a sizable portion of 25-34 year-olds and a tad more females than male.

Crimson Peak is a throwback to 1940s haunted house movies like Jacques Tourneur’s I Walked With A Zombie and Joseph L. Mankiewicz’s Dragonwyck with Vincent Price; it’s a cinematic style that modern day horror aficionados typically don’t sink their fangs into. One rival distribution suit concurred Friday night: “It just felt too old for a horror which typically appeals to a younger demo.” Would a PG-13 rating have boosted business? Possibly, but del Toro wanted to stick with an R, so that the movie wouldn’t be shortchanged. Del Toro delivered the film $1M under budget at $55M, cutting his salary by 30% and forfeiting his backend so that he could put all the dazzle up on the screen. We’ll see on Sunday whether Crimson Peak makes good on its overseas launch in 53 territories including Australia, Brazil, France, Germany, Russia, Spain and the U.K. When it comes to sophisticated, cinematic fare; Euro moviegoers get it.

Uni and Legendary promo stunts for Crimson Peak included Bergdorf Goodman dressing its NYC windows in the spirit of the film. In addition, Universal Studios Hollywood had an original maze for their Halloween Horror nights: “Guillermo del Toro Presents Crimson Peak: Maze of Madness.” On Friday night, del Toro and castmembers Tom Hiddleston, Jessica Chastain and Mia Wasikowska made an appearance on CBS’ Late Night With Stephen Colbert.
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Post by WyldeMan on 10/17/2015, 11:00 am

Seeing that GDT made this for $55 million and took a big pay cut that should definitely help Crimson make it's budget back, I bet this does a lot better overseas than it does stateside. Americans just don't really know the genre cause it hasn't been done much in a long time while it is still pretty popular in places like France.
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Post by Tyger on 10/17/2015, 11:31 am

I plan on seeing it in theaters
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Post by Tyger on 10/20/2015, 10:59 pm

So I saw this earlier tonight and the more I think about it, the more disappointed I am.

The story was generic and predictable
The twist can be seen from the trailers and doesn't do anything to help
The ghosts are unimaginative and not well executed for GDT
The actors do work, but nothing really remarkable

It's GDT, I went in wanting to love it, it saddens me that I was so let down

He even does the mainstream/traditional close-ups to quick cuts for scares...mostly early on, but still it's just beneath him

Production design and costumes killed it, that much lived up to GDT

On top of all that this motherfucker and his girl came in at the last minute and sat one seat away from me and the dude was annoying the fuck out of me. He got up and left and came back at least 5 times, no exaggeration, one of which was because he left his ringer on and went to answer his phone. He would not fucking sit still and every action somehow was exaggerated enough to shake the seats and make an unnatural amount of noise. If they had one of those night vision audience reaction cameras in that theater, you'd see my "Bitch, please" face for a solid 2 hours.
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Post by Rusty on 10/21/2015, 2:53 am

That seems to be the general consensus.

It's the safe and sanitised studio GDT.
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Post by WyldeMan on 10/21/2015, 10:11 am

When GDT does CGI ghosts we always get something like Mama. I love his practical effects but the VFX are usually a let down since they just feel out of place in his world. But they made this movie for $35 million so it won't be a financial bomb at least.
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Post by Tyger on 10/21/2015, 10:33 am

$55 million is what I keep seeing, which they'll be lucky to make domestically at this point.

He keeps saying the ghosts aren't CGI, buuuuut they are. There are practical elements, sure. They're not completely CGI, but they are CGI and while that doesn't overshadow Doug Jones' movement/performance, it does effect the overall aesthetic and feel.
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Post by WyldeMan on 10/21/2015, 11:57 am

@Tyger wrote:$55 million is what I keep seeing, which they'll be lucky to make domestically at this point.

He keeps saying the ghosts aren't CGI, buuuuut they are. There are practical elements, sure. They're not completely CGI, but they are CGI and while that doesn't overshadow Doug Jones' movement/performance, it does effect the overall aesthetic and feel.

It's the same way with The Strain, The Master is part Puppet part CGI and for me that combo doesn't work, I prefer one or the other usually never CGI.

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Post by WyldeMan on 10/21/2015, 12:32 pm

How Will China’s “No Ghosts” Rule Affect ‘Crimson Peak’ and ‘Ghostbusters’?

Today’s box office marketplace is all about the international take, especially from China. It’s why more movies are set in China and have stars that Chinese audiences like. But China also has stringent censorship laws, so where does that leave Hollywood, which wants to give filmmakers freedom to tell whatever stories they want, but still doesn’t want to hurt the bottom line?

This is the conflict facing Universal with Crimson Peak, a film that flopped stateside, but the studio was hoping could pull in international box office, similar to Guillermo del Toro’s previous film, Pacific Rim. However, as THR reports, China has a “no ghost rule” because “China’s official censorship guidelines prohibit films that ‘promote cults or superstition.’” Before you ridicule them, keep in mind that in the U.S. we stop teenagers from seeing movies if people say “Fuck” more than once.



Silly rules can create serious problems, and filmmakers have had to provide some cuts to outright narrative changes like the Chinese-made film The House That Never Dies, which (spoiler alert) “reveals that all of the foregoing ghostly encounters have simply been hallucinations, because the heroine was secretly dosed with LSD.”

Crimson Peak, a movie where the opening line of the film is “Ghosts are real,” would have to go even further. Heroine Edith Cushing (Mia Wasikowska) may say “It’s not a ghost story, it’s a story with ghosts in it,” but the ghosts are there, and that’s a problem for Chinese censors and ultimately Universal.

Sony could run up against the same problem next year with their Ghostbusters reboot for obvious reasons.   I’m not sure what kind of cuts will be made or if China will refuse to show Ghostbusters and Crimson Peak like they did with Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest. Either way, it’s a reminder that China is a powerful player in the stories we’re seeing. That’s not to say that Hollywood will stop making movies about ghosts, but it’s far more appealing to them to make movies about things that will cater to the country rather than figure out how to get past a censorship board.
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Post by WyldeMan on 10/21/2015, 12:33 pm

Say what now?


Crimson Peak, a movie where the opening line of the film is “Ghosts are real,” would have to go even further. Heroine Edith Cushing may say “It’s not a ghost story, it’s a story with ghosts in it,” but the ghosts are there, and that’s a problem for Chinese censors and ultimately Universal.


Fuck that noise!
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Post by UltimateMarvel on 10/21/2015, 7:22 pm

They censor stuff like that over there? That's a shame.
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Post by Tyger on 10/21/2015, 7:31 pm

Censorship is a shame in any country.
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Post by UltimateMarvel on 2/13/2016, 12:05 am

This was a weird movie. I watched a trailer for this once but this is not the movie I expected. I thought it was going to be a horror movie but it's really not. The CGI is creepy but it's mostly thriller. I didn't know Charlie Hunnam was in this either. Was this the movie he did instead of Fifty Shades?
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Post by WyldeMan on 2/13/2016, 8:33 am

@UltimateMarvel wrote:This was a weird movie. I watched a trailer for this once but this is not the movie I expected. I thought it was going to be a horror movie but it's really not. The CGI is creepy but it's mostly thriller. I didn't know Charlie Hunnam was in this either. Was this the movie he did instead of Fifty Shades?

It was a Gothic Romance, not a horror. GDT went blue in the face trying to explain that before release but it still didn't make me like that movie.

No, he chose his six film King Arthur franchise over Fifty Shades of Crap.
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Post by Tyger on 2/13/2016, 8:39 am

It didn't work as horror or gothic romance though. It just didn't work at all.
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Post by ForeverBlu on 6/1/2016, 2:12 pm

Just watched this on,blu.


With the talent involved in front/behind the camera, I expected better.


Beautiful to look at, but Del Toro relied heavily on visual efx.

This is the same man that gave us Cronos, The Devil's Backbone and
Pan's Labyrinth.

5/10

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Post by WyldeMan on 6/1/2016, 4:36 pm

@ForeverBlu wrote:Just watched this on,blu.

With the talent involved in front/behind the camera, I expected better.

Beautiful to look at, but Del Toro relied heavily on visual efx.

This is the same man that gave us Cronos, The Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth.

5/10

He has been relying way too much on CGI monsters, I miss his practical effects. The ghost here reminded me too much of Mama.
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Post by ForeverBlu on 6/9/2016, 5:56 am

@WyldeMan wrote:
@ForeverBlu wrote:Just watched this on,blu.

With the talent involved in front/behind the camera, I expected better.

Beautiful to look at, but Del Toro relied heavily on visual efx.

This is the same man that gave us Cronos, The Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth.

5/10

He has been relying way too much on CGI monsters, I miss his practical effects. The ghost here reminded me too much of Mama.


Another turd.

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