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Post by WyldeMan on 12/13/2017, 7:08 am

Annihilation, based on the novel by Jeff VanderMeer, follows five women (including Natalie Portman, Jennifer Jason Leigh, and Tessa Thompson) as they journey into an environmental disaster zone where something otherworldly changes the genetic make-up of everything within.

Written & Directed by Alex Garland.
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Re: Annihilation (Portman / Leigh / Thompson / Issac) (February 23, 2018)

Post by Rusty on 2/15/2018, 10:49 pm

I've been waiting for this, and news dropped today that it will only get a theatrical release in the US, Canada, and China - whilst the release rights for the rest of the world went to Netflix instead.

Why? Because the Paramount studio head thought it was “too intellectual” for general audiences.

They're still proceeding with their Bumblebee spinoff though. Rolling Eyes

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/01/annihilation-paramount-netflix/551810/

Annihilation will still hit screens in the world’s two biggest markets—the U.S. and China—but the Netflix partnership is an unusually public show of nervousness over the film’s profitability. Paramount can use the money from the deal to help recoup the film’s reported $55 million budget, but if Annihilation is a hit, the studio will miss out on any international grosses. The deal also effectively signals Paramount’s lack of trust in the vision of the filmmaker it hired. According to The Hollywood Reporter, one of the studio’s top financiers, David Ellison, clashed with Garland and the producer Scott Rudin over proposed reshoots that would have changed the ending, which the director refused to budge on. Rudin had final-cut privileges on the movie, giving him control over the finished product, and he opted to back Garland.

Annihilation isn’t a small-scale drama; it’s a visually inventive sci-fi epic, the likes of which major studios have produced for decades. Paramount bowing out of its international theatrical rollout is another example of the industry shifting away from films that aren’t proven box-office quantities. Ironically, the same kind of Netflix deal is reportedly being mulled for another Paramount movie, God Particle, part of the loosely connected Cloverfield franchise. The other two Cloverfield films were hits for Paramount, but according to The Hollywood Reporter, the studio’s new CEO Jim Gianopulos has identified the $40 million–budgeted space thriller as a risk. “He sat down and looked at what is theatrical, what is not in this day and age,” a source told the Reporter. Paramount films like the upcoming Transformers spinoff Bumblebee fit the bill; God Particle and Annihilation, it seems, may not.
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Re: Annihilation (Portman / Leigh / Thompson / Issac) (February 23, 2018)

Post by WyldeMan on 2/16/2018, 4:24 am

@Rusty wrote:I've been waiting for this, and news dropped today that it will only get a theatrical release in the US, Canada, and China - whilst the release rights for the rest of the world went to Netflix instead.

Why? Because the Paramount studio head thought it was “too intellectual” for general audiences.

They're still proceeding with their Bumblebee spinoff though. Rolling Eyes

I've heard so much about Annihilation over the last year and am looking forward to it as well.

Bumblebee is a movie made for our current world, it's all explosions and no brain activity required unlike Annihilation so I think I would agree with the statement. I don't see this being a real box office draw regardless, Portman while very talented and always making solid movies, doesn't really bring in the crowds en mass and I'd rather just be able to watch this in my living room over some mouth breathing knuckle draggers who just came for the violence and to play Candy Crush on their phones.
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Re: Annihilation (Portman / Leigh / Thompson / Issac) (February 23, 2018)

Post by Rusty on 3/12/2018, 8:53 pm

For those forum members living outside the US, you can now watch this on Netflix : Cool
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/13/2018, 5:49 am

@Rusty wrote:For those forum members living outside the US, you can now watch this on Netflix : Cool

It's available worldwide on Netflix except for the US, that's an interesting release.....
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Re: Annihilation (Portman / Leigh / Thompson / Issac) (February 23, 2018)

Post by UltimateMarvel on 3/13/2018, 3:45 pm

I'll check it out sometimes this week after I finish Jessica Jones. It's got a great cast and trailer was interesting so I hope it's good.
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Re: Annihilation (Portman / Leigh / Thompson / Issac) (February 23, 2018)

Post by Rusty on 3/13/2018, 4:46 pm

Watched it last night. Excellent movie. Slow moving, but a faster pace would have ruined it.

Tense moments, creepy moments, what the fuck moments. The ending was nuts. Could easily have a follow up (the book it's based on is intended to be a trilogy).

Wish I saw it in the theatres. The visuals and sounds are fantastic. At the very least, a 4K TV would have been awesome.

If you watch it, do yourself a favour and watch it at night with the lights off. Don't sit and watch it whilst your phone is in your hand. You'll miss a lot of subtle shit.
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/13/2018, 8:46 pm

@Rusty wrote:Watched it last night. Excellent movie. Slow moving, but a faster pace would have ruined it.

Tense moments, creepy moments, what the fuck moments. The ending was nuts. Could easily have a follow up (the book it's based on is intended to be a trilogy).

Wish I saw it in the theatres. The visuals and sounds are fantastic. At the very least, a 4K TV would have been awesome.

If you watch it, do yourself a favour and watch it at night with the lights off. Don't sit and watch it whilst your phone is in your hand. You'll miss a lot of subtle shit.

But I need to live tweet it or I didn't see it!!!

I plan on watching this in the next few days, been waiting what feels like a few years now.
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Re: Annihilation (Portman / Leigh / Thompson / Issac) (February 23, 2018)

Post by Rusty on 3/13/2018, 9:01 pm

@WyldeMan wrote:
But I need to live tweet it or I didn't see it!!!

I plan on watching this in the next few days, been waiting what feels like a few years now.

In theaters? If you're going to watch a downloaded version, absolutely get the highest quality available. It deserves it.

Without giving too much away, towards the end, there's about a 15-20 minute section without a single word of dialogue - it's complete visual storytelling at its finest.
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Post by Tyger on 3/13/2018, 10:03 pm

Ooh, I love silent storytelling. Gonna try to see this in theaters soon
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Post by Rusty on 3/13/2018, 10:26 pm

@Tyger wrote:Ooh, I love silent storytelling. Gonna try to see this in theaters soon

I suppose I shouldn't say "at its finest", but it's damn fantastic.

And as far as the studio exec's "too intelligent" comment is concerned, he's a moron. An Intelligent film? yes. Too intelligent? Nope. If I can follow and appreciate it, so can most moviegoers.
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Re: Annihilation (Portman / Leigh / Thompson / Issac) (February 23, 2018)

Post by UltimateMarvel on 3/19/2018, 5:51 pm

This is what you call a creative movie. lol
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/20/2018, 6:57 am

@UltimateMarvel wrote:This is what you call a creative movie. lol

Pretension should not be mistaken for creative.

Pretty colors and twirling shapes should not taken precedent over a coherent, well thought out story.
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Re: Annihilation (Portman / Leigh / Thompson / Issac) (February 23, 2018)

Post by Rusty on 3/20/2018, 7:02 am

@WyldeMan wrote:
@UltimateMarvel wrote:This is what you call a creative movie. lol

Pretension should not be mistaken for creative.

Pretty colors and twirling shapes should not taken precedent over a coherent, well thought out story.

You and I watched a completely different film.

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Post by WyldeMan on 3/20/2018, 7:07 am

@Rusty wrote:You and I watched a completely different film.

We must have cause I went in so excited after waiting so many years and came away just pissed off and wondering what was the point of most of it. I normally love Portman's movies and watch them several times but this one, nope.
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Post by Rusty on 3/20/2018, 7:18 am

@WyldeMan wrote:
@Rusty wrote:You and I watched a completely different film.

We must have cause I went in so excited after waiting so many years and came away just pissed off and wondering what was the point of most of it. I normally love Portman's movies and watch them several times but this one, nope.

Yeah. Going in excited is always cause for concern.

I've learned to go in blind, and reap the rewards.
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/20/2018, 7:25 am

@Rusty wrote:Yeah. Going in excited is always cause for concern.

I've learned to go in blind, and reap the rewards.

But see that's the problem, I was hyped because I loved Ex Machina and Portman always gets my watch but otherwise I skipped all trailers and only saw the picture of Portman and the gator's mouth so I connected it to a more prominent role because of it. I went in as blind as I could and I think that's why the confusion, did everybody else know going in that this was an alien invasion film?
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Re: Annihilation (Portman / Leigh / Thompson / Issac) (February 23, 2018)

Post by UltimateMarvel on 3/20/2018, 2:10 pm

You know what the ending reminded me of? Under the Skin with Scarlett Johansson. Weird as fuck!
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/20/2018, 3:18 pm

@UltimateMarvel wrote:You know what the ending reminded me of? Under the Skin with Scarlett Johansson. Weird as fuck!

I just kept thinking of Marvel's Silver Surfer.
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Post by UltimateMarvel on 3/20/2018, 4:38 pm

@WyldeMan wrote:But see that's the problem, I was hyped because I loved Ex Machina and Portman always gets my watch but otherwise I skipped all trailers and only saw the picture of Portman and the gator's mouth so I connected it to a more prominent role because of it. I went in as blind as I could and I think that's why the confusion, did everybody else know going in that this was an alien invasion film?

I didn't. I only watched the teaser and I knew it was sci-fi obviously and I just thought it was interesting.

@WyldeMan wrote:I just kept thinking of Marvel's Silver Surfer.

lol That's another good comparison, all it needed was the surfboard.


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Post by WyldeMan on 3/20/2018, 4:40 pm

@UltimateMarvel wrote:lol That's another good comparison, all it needed was the surfboard.

It might not have been so gay if at least had the surf board.
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Post by Tyger on 3/20/2018, 7:31 pm

@UltimateMarvel wrote:You know what the ending reminded me of? Under the Skin with Scarlett Johansson. Weird as fuck!
Yeah, I was reminded of thst movie where ScarJo plays a black chick at the end too. That movie was better though.

The trippy blob thing was the best part of the movie. None of the relationships paid off in any way. They kept making a point about all the previous teams being all men and this team was all women and....no fucking reason again. And the Thriller ending. Come on. And they FOUGHT for that. I want to know what they were possibly fighting against.
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/21/2018, 6:33 am

@Tyger wrote:The trippy blob thing was the best part of the movie. None of the relationships paid off in any way. They kept making a point about all the previous teams being all men and this team was all women and....no fucking reason again. And the Thriller ending. Come on. And they FOUGHT for that. I want to know what they were possibly fighting against.

Exactly! What was the point of the affair when all this other drama was already playing out and not being resolved?? It was a total derailment for me, I don't understand why that script got that cast or all that hype. I can't imagine anybody fighting for that ending, it seems like the one you think of and then don't ever actually type into existence cause it sucks so badly.
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Post by UltimateMarvel on 3/21/2018, 7:24 am

Who made it out in the end by the way? Lena clearly killed the alien and then later we see her eyes change color. It was clear for Kane but Lena's case doesn't make sense.
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/21/2018, 8:02 am

@UltimateMarvel wrote:Who made it out in the end by the way? Lena clearly killed the alien and then later we see her eyes change color. It was clear for Kane but Lena's case doesn't make sense.

My interpretation was that both Lena and Kane were body snatched at the end, so they were dead and aliens were wearing their meat suits.

Apparently it's massively different in the book.
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Post by UltimateMarvel on 3/21/2018, 8:17 am

@WyldeMan wrote:My interpretation was that both Lena and Kane were body snatched at the end, so they were dead and aliens were wearing their meat suits.

Apparently it's massively different in the book.

But she killed it and made it out and we saw it die? Must be editing error or something.
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/21/2018, 8:47 am

@UltimateMarvel wrote:But she killed it and made it out and we saw it die? Must be editing error or something.

Did she though?
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Post by joey con carne on 3/21/2018, 1:49 pm

Or maybe the real Lena made it out but her DNA was altered like some of the animals in the movie.
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/21/2018, 2:06 pm

@joey con carne wrote:Or maybe the real Lena made it out but her DNA was altered like some of the animals in the movie.

But then why did she have the same eyes and strange behavior as her Body Snatched husband? I half expected them to start playing with each other's stomach snakes while everybody watched.
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Re: Annihilation (Portman / Leigh / Thompson / Issac) (February 23, 2018)

Post by Rusty on 3/21/2018, 3:45 pm

@WyldeMan wrote:
@joey con carne wrote:Or maybe the real Lena made it out but her DNA was altered like some of the animals in the movie.

But then why did she have the same eyes and strange behavior as her Body Snatched husband? I half expected them to start playing with each other's stomach snakes while everybody watched.

I took her behaviour as now realising that it wasn't Kane, but the replicant.

The eye thing was because her DNA had changed. She'd already tested her blood inside the shimmer and it had already started changing. How much it changed? No idea, but once it's started, that's all she wrote.
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Post by UltimateMarvel on 3/21/2018, 5:17 pm

Also what doesn't make sense is after Lena's replicant died, the shimmer and everything in it was destroyed but Kane still survived?
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Post by Rusty on 3/21/2018, 5:53 pm

@UltimateMarvel wrote:Also what doesn't make sense is after Lena's replicant died, the shimmer and everything in it was destroyed but Kane still survived?

Because it was outside the shimmer?
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Post by Tyger on 3/21/2018, 7:57 pm

@joey con carne wrote:Or maybe the real Lena made it out but her DNA was altered like some of the animals in the movie.
Or maybe the real Lena was inside us all along
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Post by UltimateMarvel on 3/21/2018, 8:38 pm

@Rusty wrote:
@UltimateMarvel wrote:Also what doesn't make sense is after Lena's replicant died, the shimmer and everything in it was destroyed but Kane still survived?

Because it was outside the shimmer?

Whatever was inside that hole with the vines or whatever, their original drop or source of power, was destroyed so it didn't make sense for anything alien to survive after that.

@Tyger wrote:Or maybe the real Lena was inside us all along

Hmmmmm, this actually makes sense.
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Post by Rusty on 3/21/2018, 9:09 pm

@UltimateMarvel wrote:
@Rusty wrote:
@UltimateMarvel wrote:Also what doesn't make sense is after Lena's replicant died, the shimmer and everything in it was destroyed but Kane still survived?

Because it was outside the shimmer?

Whatever was inside that hole with the vines or whatever, their original drop or source of power, was destroyed so it didn't make sense for anything alien to survive after that.

They were roots that spread underground, which is how/why the area slowly got larger over time. Anything that was within the shimmer, and growing from those roots, died from the fires, because they were all connected by that root system

Lena and Repli-Kane were outside the shimmer, and whist affected by the shimmer, they weren't growing out of the ground.

I can't remember, but I don't believe they showed any of the shimmer animals going up in flames. Just all the plant life.
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/21/2018, 9:24 pm

@Tyger wrote:
@joey con carne wrote:Or maybe the real Lena made it out but her DNA was altered like some of the animals in the movie.
Or maybe the real Lena was inside us all along

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Post by joey con carne on 3/22/2018, 7:43 am

Okay, truth time. I have not watched this movie.
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Post by WyldeMan on 3/22/2018, 3:22 pm

@joey con carne wrote:Okay, truth time. I have not watched this movie.

Well the rest of us have and we all have a different interpretation of the ending. Do you think that's a problem?
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Post by UltimateMarvel on 3/22/2018, 5:24 pm

@Rusty wrote:They were roots that spread underground, which is how/why the area slowly got larger over time. Anything that was within the shimmer, and growing from those roots, died from the fires, because they were all connected by that root system

Lena and Repli-Kane were outside the shimmer, and whist affected by the shimmer, they weren't growing out of the ground.

I can't remember, but I don't believe they showed any of the shimmer animals going up in flames. Just all the plant life.

Fine, I'll buy that. No, they didn't show the animals dying. Kane was dying outside of the shimmer though, we saw blood when he drank the water. Still, it doesn't make the movie better. I'm curious about the real Kane and the other soldiers went through though. Might as well have seen their experiences in the shimmer because sending 4 women in their respective fields accomplished nothing. Sure, she torched it but that was by accident. Kane almost did the same thing only he took out himself. lol

@joey con carne wrote:Okay, truth time. I have not watched this movie.

I figured you didn't and I knew you were joking, so was I. Your street cred just went down though. You have failed this city! Razz

Check the movie out when you got nothing else to watch. Tell us your thoughts on it, you might like it like Russ did.
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